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  My depiction of the GB teasing everybody with paradise

  by just n from bethel in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngeksicqkpw&feature=player_embedded.

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  You said it flipper - but whatever they tell us we're getting and say is in the fridge - we'd never get it anyway.
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  writer of new simplified watchtower reveals himself (also writes movies)

  by just n from bethel in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiy5b1jmvgs.

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  couldn't wait till Friday - Also, I'm usually doing something else Saturdays instead of chatting up six screens. When I left the JWs, I tried to get this thing called "a life."
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  JWs Not Allowed to Post on Websites?

  by StandFirm in

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  this seems to be a favorite topic to bring up to any witnesses who post on any website where there are any opposers, either here or topix or anywhere.. so, here is the one and only place i will be discussing it.

  who can prove that witnesses are specifically told not to post on websites about them?.

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  Stand Firm just PMd me his pic. He said I could post it and that his name is Burt.
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  writer of new simplified watchtower reveals himself (also writes movies)

  by just n from bethel in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiy5b1jmvgs.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIY5b1JMvGs
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  My depiction of the GB teasing everybody with paradise

  by just n from bethel in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngeksicqkpw&feature=player_embedded.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGeKSiCQkPw&feature=player_embedded
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  The Infamous May 15th 1984 Watchtower "1914: The Generation That Will Not Pass Away"

  by PublishingCult in

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  i do not know how the blogger who posted this infamous wt cover (5/15/84) got all the names of those who posed for this magazine cover, or whether the names are even correct, but if he got it right, man, what a provocative statement.. .

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  "The 144,000 figure was fulfilled decades ago"

  The current reasoning is that Jehovah knew how long this system would go on so he saved some spots to ensure that there would be FDS alive on earth when the great trib began.

  Of course the real thing to wrap one's mind around is the problem with the idea that the WT teaches that there has always been a FDS from the 1st centruy C.E. up to now. In the first century, I recall some researchers (I think Leolaia) have conservatively calculated that there were between 20,000 and 50,000 Christians. Remember all these were annointed as the WT teaches that the first Christians were pretty much all anointed - based on the idea of the 144,000 being 'firstfruits'. So I'm not sure what the highest annointed number ever recorded was by JWs - but I'd guess there were at least 50,000 or so since the org began (I mean hell, there's almost 12,000 right now). Also, don't forget that in Russel's day, he noted there were other Christians, obviously with the heavenly hope, who were not part of the WT org - such as George Storrs. So assuming that in the modern-day org there have been 50,000 annointed and let's just say 10,000 , annointed Russell Contemporaries. And let's be real conservative, and say only 20,000 1st century annointed. So that leaves 64,000 spots to have been taken in 19 centuries. How many people lived that claimed Christianity in that time period - a billion, 500 million, 100 million? I don't know - but I know it's a lot - a lot more than 64,000 or even 144,000. The WT loves to talk about known Bible promoters like Tyndale and others and imply that they were likely FDS/annointed. However, for every one that was known, like Tyndale, how many others were not known? How many humble Christian women of which there was no record of, would have been called? The idea that no more than 64,000 Christians were annointed over 19 centuries, is just mathematically stupid. The same really can be said if it was 144,000 - so ridiculous to think that there were not at least 144,000 annointed christians, not just in the span of 19 centuries, but much earlier.

  In the end, there is so much that doesn't make sense about the whole 144,000 annointed remnant generation, that it is amazing that anyone buys it all, but most of us here did at one time.
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  Summing up the Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Knowsnothing in

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  if you could describe the jehovah's witnesses, in a sentence (no run-ons please) what would it be?.

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  jehovah's witnesses are mostly harmless; just don't join 'em..

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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Legal Champions of promoting freedom of speech worldwide, just not inside our own organization.
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  The Ransom for Nitwits

  by Farkel in

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  mark 10:45: "for even the son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.".

  1 timothy 2:5-6: "for there is one god, and one mediator between god and men, the man christ jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.".

  the ransom that was taught for the first 1,000 years of christianity.

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  BTTT (my way of saying thanks for Farkel's awesomeness)
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  The latest July 15 WT - un-real.

  by just n from bethel in

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  i've been trying for some time to find the motiviation i needed to completely leave the cult behind.

  i'm mean, do it emotionally as well as mentally (whole-souled, right?

  ), despite still having a lot of family and friends that are cult members.

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  I don't have much to say. I've been trying for some time to find the motiviation I needed to completely leave the cult behind. I'm mean, do it emotionally as well as mentally (whole-souled, right?), despite still having a lot of family and friends that are cult members. I have one immediate family member that I hope one day will realize it's a cult. How could anybody read this Watchtower and not see it?

  A lot has already been said about this WT but here's another example to me - that says it all:

  "All such idle and troublesomebehavior can distract
  us from the God-assigned work of
  Kingdom preaching. If we stop actively supporting
  Jehovah’s work, then we start following
  Satan. There is no middle ground.
  —Matt.12:30." From the article 'Will you heed Jehovah's clear warnings?' p. 18 pgph 15.

  I'd like, actually, to thank the WT for this whole series of articles - coming right out and saying what I already knew as to how the GB thinks of anyone that is inactive. To me this entire WT says more than just about anything I recall being printed by them recently.

  So Watchtower, GB, I figure you're reading this - so...thank you. Thank you for making it so easy for me to know I made the right decision to move on from your authoritarian cult. This couldn't have come at a better time. It truly is meat in it's due season. Best of luck as you continue to whip the sheep. I hope your beatings go well.

  For everybody else on JWN, I'd like to say how enlightened this article has made me when it comes to how bad some of you were treated. I always thought, because my experiences in the org were rather mundane and without any real negative incidents in my congregations, I figured those that did get the crappy treatment or worse, were just a rarity. I thought they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. That the men or congregation or families that treated you unjustly and subjected you to unchristian anguish, I thought they were not really following the official direction. Now I realize it's not true. They were following the official direction of the society. The society truly had/has contempt for you, and I never really saw it until now. I'm sorry. I hope you all recover, move on, and lead lives that are full and meaningful. I realize that it will mean a different spiritual journey for probably every individual here. Who am I to say that one's chosen path is not right? It may not be right for me - but I'm not God and I sure as hell am not going to play God like the Watchtower.

  Simon - thanks for this forum. It's probably kept me from going postal.
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  Ohhh for crying out loud, were worldly people always inviting you to stuff?!?!?!

  by miseryloveselders in

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  last friday, a woman i work with, who reminds me of scully from the x-files, asked me to hang out with her and her friends at a watering hole not that far from where we work.

  she and her friends get off roughly an hour before i get off, and considering the amount of work i had on my desk at the time, and the amount of time i wasted on here, i knew it'd would be a while before i caught up with them.

  so i told her i'll try, but i won't get off until roughly 6:30pm or later.

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  I just made it to this part "Last Friday, a woman I work with, who reminds me of Scully from the X-Files"

  I don't have to read the rest my friend. The answer is this: you're going ... no ifs, and, or buts (except hers) - do this for yourself man. Hell do this for God. Shit man - do this for all us JW males that got married way too early because of the org. We're counting on you goddamn it! Do not let us down.